Bach: Panhandling ban dead

Posted by J. Adrian Stanley on Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 3:54 PM

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In an interview with FOX21 News, Mayor Steve Bach confirmed that Colorado Springs City Council will not pursue a downtown panhandling ban further.

The original ban was challenged by the American Civil Liberties Union, and a judge agreed to grant an injunction, preventing the ban from going into effect pending the outcome of the case. In her decision, the judge said the law wasn't likely to survive a trial.

"Our City Council has decided not to fight that and directed me and our police chief to increase law enforcement downtown," the mayor said to the TV station. "The challenge with that is we don't have enough police officers. We'd have to have 20 or 30 more police officers."

Bach said he was hopeful that surveillance cameras that have been installed downtown will curb crime.

Throughout the interview, Bach also said that he did not support a bill that allows Colorado Springs firefighters collective bargaining rights.

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Robo Steve strikes again. I wonder how much money the city wasted pursuing this? Our esteemed mayor, who wants to control everything it seems, wants to control the right to collective bargaining. I thought these guy were for individual rights and smaller government.

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Posted by staunchliberal on 02/08/2013 at 5:39 PM

Maybe if the doofus mayor has spent the money he used for the downtown spy cameras to instead pay for overtime for cops to do foot patrols downtown, he wouldn't be whining about how much it would cost. Just sayin'

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Posted by The Truth is out there on 02/08/2013 at 6:20 PM

The panhandlers are scammers...their tax free income would probably stun us all.

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Posted by TejonTech on 02/08/2013 at 10:03 PM

Who, in their right mind, would give money to a drunken, drug-addled bum so they can drink some more and do more drugs? How does this make any sense, no matter how much your bleeding heart aches.
I still maintain the law should be against the idiotic people giving money to the bums. Even if this law was allowed to stand, the bums don't care about laws. That is one of the reasons they are bums.

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Posted by siggie on 02/09/2013 at 7:15 AM

Don't much care for pan-handling, but then again, I don't much care for our Nazi Mayor and his ways...Hey Bach! When are you gonna respond to my citizen complaint? Just wondering...

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Posted by Audrey Hatfield on 02/09/2013 at 10:16 AM

I agree with the mayor...these dead beats are making our downtown a difficult place to visit, and that hurts businesses which employ people who understand they need to take care of themselves rather expect others to take care them.

If we continue to organize ourselves around depravation instead of success, we will all suffer.

But let's not throw our trust on wacko courts...just admonish anyone you see feeding the wildlife, and the panhandlers will finally be forced to go elsewhere.

Although in the end we still have the misguided catholic charities magnet that needs to divide and distribute their services around instead of concentrating them right in the heart of downtown.

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Posted by TejonTech on 02/09/2013 at 11:42 AM

Audrey: If your citizen complaint was written like your post (Nazi Mayor wasn't partisan at all, was it?), it likely wasn't taken seriously.

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Posted by siggie on 02/09/2013 at 2:02 PM

Siggie,

How do you know that every pan handler is a drunken, drug addicted bum? Where are you facts or are they just assumptions? You have no problem judging panhandlers and calling them bums. Did you talk to every panhandler to understand their circumstances? I find it very ironic that you have a hissy fit when someone voices their opinions concerning Bach and many of the decisions he makes and rant not having facts to back up opinions. Yet, you have no problem judging panhandlers and calling them bums without knowing any facts about the issues and circumstances that made them homeless? You assume you know but you have no facts to back it up. Doesn't that seem hypocritical? This is just something to think about.

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Posted by ROSE on 02/11/2013 at 6:40 AM

Well Rosie gal, there is that "hissy fit" again. You must be intimately familiar with the term and its application.
To paraphrase a recent quacker quote --- if it looks like a drunken or drug-addled bum, and it smells like a drunken or drug-addled bum, and it acts like a drunken or drug-addled bum then it is very likely a ___________________________.
(Please fill in the blank as your bleeding heart allows.)
You're still mad because I nailed you on the Bach comments. And then you were further chastised by the publisher. Careful Rosie, your true nature is peaking out.

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Posted by siggie on 02/11/2013 at 9:30 AM

Sigfried,

I am not angry because you had a hissy fit about the comments I made regarding Bach. I find it very amusing that you and your buddy, publisher, feel that you are so superior to everyone else. Based on the comments you directed at me regarding my opinions of our Mayor, I was somewhat surprised to read your opinions regarding the pan handlers. You stroke out when someone expresses a negative comment about your buddy, Bach, and demand to know the facts behind the comments, yet you can attack the pan handlers and use all sorts of ignorant stereotypes and labels without the FACTS! You need to walk the walk not just spew your ignorant rantings. I am sure that many of the panhandlers most likely have substance abuse problems but a little compassion and understanding would not kill you. I work with many people who have challenges and there are many underlying issues that cause them to be in the situation they are in. They still deserve to be treated with dignity and respect.

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Posted by Rose on 02/11/2013 at 8:36 PM

Over 90% of panhandlers suffer from debilitating mental and/or physical illnesses.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 02/12/2013 at 12:10 PM

They need to then, if really sick, be in a home care situation and not on the streets...we could easily afford this if the lazy out of work would get off the unemployment dole and get a job, if those who are not really disabled would get off those rolls.

We have system to care for people if it were not overwhelmed from those taking unfair advantage of it.

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Posted by TejonTech on 02/12/2013 at 12:19 PM

Gee Dr. K, what a profound statement. Given your prognosis, are you then agreeing with Miz Rosie that we should give them money to purchase drugs and alcohol?

And Tech, you have just pointed out the curse of liberalism.

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Posted by siggie on 02/12/2013 at 4:34 PM

Sig...pointing out the curse is better than cursing I suppose

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Posted by TejonTech on 02/12/2013 at 4:38 PM

The "system" is overwhelmed by unfunded warfare. Even so, we can afford to house and care for the ill and disabled, and maintain unemployment benefits, social security, medicare, and obamacare as well.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 02/12/2013 at 5:21 PM

I guess that would depend on how you define "afford". We are now over 16 1/2 trillion dollars in debt. We are now borrowing $.46 of every dollar we spend. Is that how you define afford?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/d…

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Posted by siggie on 02/12/2013 at 5:30 PM

We all paid for social security and Medicare...so that is a contract.

Obamacare and unemployment are personal problems, not an obligation for the rest of us

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Posted by TejonTech on 02/12/2013 at 8:26 PM

Sigfried, you seem to be suffering from dementia or some other cognitive impairment. I never said to give them money to purchase drugs or alcohol. You are missing the point of my blog. You spew your negative judgemental opinions and assumptions yet you chastise other people when they voice an opinion or belief without the FACTS. You seem to think you are the fact master and based on your blogs you appear to think you are better and more intelligent than other people. I hope you find happiness, tolerance, acceptance and understanding soon. You seem like a very unhappy man. Have a nice evening.

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Posted by Rose on 02/12/2013 at 9:40 PM

This is what I have been talking about...

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Posted by TejonTech on 02/12/2013 at 10:19 PM

Well Rosie my dear, it seems that you take yourself much too seriously.

Since I didn't read your post until this morning, I missed that "nice evening" you, oh so sincerely, wished for me. Passive/aggressive comes to mind.

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Posted by siggie on 02/13/2013 at 5:46 AM

Rosie: notwithstanding the fact that I originally posted about panhandlers, which by the way was the gist of the article, you seemed intent on generalizing to anyone and everyone that has ever been homeless in a failed attempt to make your point. Here's the deal Rosie, if you can teach one panhandler self-respect, self-control and self-reliance I'll give him/her a dollar next time I see them. I'm confident my dollar is safe. But they can no doubt get their drug and alcohol money from you.

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Posted by siggie on 02/13/2013 at 8:59 AM

After telling siggie over 90% of panhandlers are truly ill and disabled, he gloats over their inability to learn "self-respect, self-control and self-reliance." The problem with most of these people is not too many drugs, but too few, that is, not taking their prescribed meds.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 02/13/2013 at 10:46 AM

TejonTech, unemployment insurance is also a contract paid for by workers and employers much like social security. You cannot collect unemployment benefits if you have not been working for at least one year before losing your job, or if you quit your last job voluntarily, or if you were fired with cause.

Obamacare is not such a contract. It is only a measure to cut down on the costs we already pay to cover health care for the indigent and working poor.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 02/13/2013 at 10:56 AM
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